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Debate: Is Mick Philpott a product of the welfare state?

Sun Columnist and editor of the Guido Fawkes blog Paul Staines says, yes, the welfare state is to blame for this tragedy, but Independent columnist and author Owen Jones says no, blaming Mick Philpott on the welfare state is like blaming Harold Shipman on the NHS.

What do you think?


It is worth watching the full discussion (approx 11 mins)

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